Comments on: Basics of Attention Profiling through APML http://cleverclogs.org/2007/10/basics-of-atten.html Animal with me while I get to know this bear Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:25:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Arjen Schat http://cleverclogs.org/2007/10/basics-of-atten.html#comment-214 Arjen Schat Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:35:05 +0000 http://cleverclogs.org/2007/11/basics-of-attention-profiling-through-apml.html#comment-214 Excellent article, Especially interesting for business work groups. And thanks for the coffee :) Cheers, Arjen Excellent article,

Especially interesting for business work groups. And thanks for the coffee :)
Cheers,
Arjen

]]> By: Stewart McKie http://cleverclogs.org/2007/10/basics-of-atten.html#comment-213 Stewart McKie Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:40:51 +0000 http://cleverclogs.org/2007/11/basics-of-attention-profiling-through-apml.html#comment-213 Thank you for an excellent introduction to APML. My first reaction to APML is one of resistance (which is typical of me) i.e. something else that "defines me" whether I control it or not. We are steadily moving into a world where we are being subtly defined by our online avatars i.e. our lifestream, our AP, our blog, our LinkedIn/Facebook profile etc. How far are we from selecting friends/mates based on their AP? How far are employers from rejecting job candidates based on their lifestream feed? I throw these up merely as questions to reflect on. Maybe an evermore "accurate" definition of us is a good thing. We find the right friends/mates, we get the right jobs, we get offered the right stuff. But don't you wonder what you're missing? I would like the APML guys to think about this. I'm happy to create an AP as long as I can also get the benefit of a "non-AP" - a NAPML. My NAPML is a machine generated stab at the things most likely not to get my attention, then I can benefit from both ends of the spectrum. Stuff that my AP thinks I want and stuff my NAPML thinks I won't want. Just a thought... Thank you for an excellent introduction to APML.

My first reaction to APML is one of resistance (which is typical of me) i.e. something else that “defines me” whether I control it or not. We are steadily moving into a world where we are being subtly defined by our online avatars i.e. our lifestream, our AP, our blog, our LinkedIn/Facebook profile etc. How far are we from selecting friends/mates based on their AP? How far are employers from rejecting job candidates based on their lifestream feed? I throw these up merely as questions to reflect on.

Maybe an evermore “accurate” definition of us is a good thing. We find the right friends/mates, we get the right jobs, we get offered the right stuff. But don’t you wonder what you’re missing?

I would like the APML guys to think about this. I’m happy to create an AP as long as I can also get the benefit of a “non-AP” - a NAPML. My NAPML is a machine generated stab at the things most likely not to get my attention, then I can benefit from both ends of the spectrum. Stuff that my AP thinks I want and stuff my NAPML thinks I won’t want.

Just a thought…

]]> By: Marc Fonteijn http://cleverclogs.org/2007/10/basics-of-atten.html#comment-212 Marc Fonteijn Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:31:37 +0000 http://cleverclogs.org/2007/11/basics-of-attention-profiling-through-apml.html#comment-212 Great post Marjolein! I finally had the time to catch up. A lot of people experience the problem of "information overload" or in other words they don't know how to filter the real imporant information. This topic has kept me busy for quite some time now. It good to see that it's got a name an that smart people are working on a solution. My view on privacy of APML: image what power you hold when you filter your information not only through your own attention profile but also by the profile of the people in your social network... Great post Marjolein! I finally had the time to catch up.
A lot of people experience the problem of “information overload” or in other words they don’t know how to filter the real imporant information.

This topic has kept me busy for quite some time now. It good to see that it’s got a name an that smart people are working on a solution.

My view on privacy of APML: image what power you hold when you filter your information not only through your own attention profile but also by the profile of the people in your social network…

]]> By: TibsBits http://cleverclogs.org/2007/10/basics-of-atten.html#comment-216 TibsBits Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:13:49 +0000 http://cleverclogs.org/2007/11/basics-of-attention-profiling-through-apml.html#comment-216 <strong>Attention Profiling: ja graag!</strong> Marjolein Hoekstras Basics of Attention Profiling through APML is goed leesvoer voor (bijvoorbeeld) Casema, dat in de digitale nieuwsbrief die ik als abonnee krijg, mij nieuwe abonnees twee maanden gratis telefonie aanbiedt. Bedankt hoor! Techn... Attention Profiling: ja graag!

Marjolein Hoekstras Basics of Attention Profiling through APML is goed leesvoer voor (bijvoorbeeld) Casema, dat in de digitale nieuwsbrief die ik als abonnee krijg, mij nieuwe abonnees twee maanden gratis telefonie aanbiedt.
Bedankt hoor!

Techn…

]]> By: Chris Saad http://cleverclogs.org/2007/10/basics-of-atten.html#comment-211 Chris Saad Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:04:18 +0000 http://cleverclogs.org/2007/11/basics-of-attention-profiling-through-apml.html#comment-211 Hi John The reason direct feeds is better than a spliced feed is because it limits the possibility that metadata in the feed is lost during the splicing/re-publishing. Also it gives Engagd a chance to measure the weight and popularity of the source as well as cache certain things better. It is not a necessity - just a nice to have. I will check out your use case post soon and comment there! Cheers, Chris Hi John
The reason direct feeds is better than a spliced feed is because it limits the possibility that metadata in the feed is lost during the splicing/re-publishing.

Also it gives Engagd a chance to measure the weight and popularity of the source as well as cache certain things better.

It is not a necessity - just a nice to have.

I will check out your use case post soon and comment there!

Cheers,

Chris

]]> By: John Tropea http://cleverclogs.org/2007/10/basics-of-atten.html#comment-210 John Tropea Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:25:34 +0000 http://cleverclogs.org/2007/11/basics-of-attention-profiling-through-apml.html#comment-210 I left a comment but I got the captcha twice...anyway very cool post. Can't remember if I put my lifestream feed or OPML, but you say the OPML is better analysed...can you explain. Also do you have any current ways to actually USE your APML? See my attempt at some usage scenarios, if anyone will understand this post it's you and Chris: http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2007/08/02/engagd-apml-attention-in-detail/ I left a comment but I got the captcha twice…anyway very cool post.

Can’t remember if I put my lifestream feed or OPML, but you say the OPML is better analysed…can you explain.

Also do you have any current ways to actually USE your APML?

See my attempt at some usage scenarios, if anyone will understand this post it’s you and Chris:

http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2007/08/02/engagd-apml-attention-in-detail/

]]> By: Prateek http://cleverclogs.org/2007/10/basics-of-atten.html#comment-209 Prateek Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:33:39 +0000 http://cleverclogs.org/2007/11/basics-of-attention-profiling-through-apml.html#comment-209 Great post and nice introduction into the world of APML. Great post and nice introduction into the world of APML.

]]> By: John LoGioco http://cleverclogs.org/2007/10/basics-of-atten.html#comment-208 John LoGioco Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:16:07 +0000 http://cleverclogs.org/2007/11/basics-of-attention-profiling-through-apml.html#comment-208 I think attention profiling will become one of the most valued metrics ahead. I blogged about the *value* of attention span and the equation between a person's scarcest resource (their attention span) and the value they derive from the sites they visit. My post on attention span is here; www.anupwelling.blogspot.com. Anyway - great post as this topic seems to be picking up some momentum. I think attention profiling will become one of the most valued metrics ahead. I blogged about the *value* of attention span and the equation between a person’s scarcest resource (their attention span) and the value they derive from the sites they visit. My post on attention span is here; http://www.anupwelling.blogspot.com. Anyway - great post as this topic seems to be picking up some momentum.

]]> By: Read/WriteWeb http://cleverclogs.org/2007/10/basics-of-atten.html#comment-215 Read/WriteWeb Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:32:20 +0000 http://cleverclogs.org/2007/11/basics-of-attention-profiling-through-apml.html#comment-215 <strong>Are Recommendation Engines a Threat to the Long Tail?</strong> Two Wharton academics released an interesting paper last week that asks whether online recommendation services are a threat to the aggregate diversity of items discovered by their users. The study is titled "Blockbuster Culture's Next Rise or Fall: The... Are Recommendation Engines a Threat to the Long Tail?

Two Wharton academics released an interesting paper last week that asks whether online recommendation services are a threat to the aggregate diversity of items discovered by their users. The study is titled “Blockbuster Culture’s Next Rise or Fall: The…

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